last updated April 2016 |
Ever wondered how good Indochino really is and how you can get a really well fitting Indochino suit? Having successfully ordered from Indochino more than 10 times and counting, I would like to present you with the ultimate guide to the perfect Indochino suit. Over time I have perfected the most vital steps and I believe if you follow the advice as laid out below, you will likely get a suit that fits well. Please note that this guide was written specifically for Indochino suits, but may be applied to other online MTM companies as well.
I will regularly update this guide as I learn about new developments. Indochino is constantly growing and evolving, so please bookmark this page and check back sometimes for updates (follow me on twitter.com/indochinoreview, on Facebook, or sign up for the RSS feed to get notified). For any suggestions, criticism and questions you can email me directly at lorenz@indochino-review.com. But now on to the interesting part (I know it's not a short read, but if you are about to spend anything from 300$-800$ on a product, it's well worth your time!)
The truth is, you are not going to get a suit that rivals truly bespoke suits in the price range of many thousand dollars/euros. However, what you get is a great product that is well worth the money and surely better than anything in the same price range that can be bought off the rack (OTR). Indochino is experiencing a period of high growth and it is now vital for them to keep up their quick response rates and fast delivery times, their high customer orientation and their commitment to satisfy. They have done so by introducing digital cutting, a technique that makes sure all your suits are cut to exactly the same measurements and fit the same way every time.
Additionally, they have recently introduced a greater variety of quality fabrics, not only originating from top Chinese mills, but also from traditional suppliers in Italy. Components such as collar felts, shoulder pads and canvassing have also been upgraded significantly in late 2012.
Order the Indochino Tailor's Kit to check the fabric
So if you you have some time before you order (sometimes their collections sell out quickly, then ordering the Tailor's Kit risks missing out on the suit you might have wanted), go for it. The Tailor's Kit is delivered within a few days and the cost of 29$ are credited for a future purchase - be careful, it cannot always be combined with another coupon code. Just a quick word about polyester: even if it is a few dollars cheaper, don't do it. It's just not a material to wear on your skin and has many drawbacks (sweat!). That said, Indochino stopped selling any polyester suits anyway a while go.
The Tailor's Kit is delivered within a few days, but if you can't wait, at least go for those fabrics with 100% natural fiber One other advantage of the Tailor's Kit are the 2 free measuring tapes you get with it.
Alternatively, you can now also attend one of Indochino's Traveling Tailor events if you get the chance. These events are happening all over the US and Canada. You get to see all the fabrics in person and you get measured by a specialist. The dates for the next even are usually published here: Indochino Traveling Tailor Dates
Check for discount coupons
Indochino already offers great value for money on default, but that doesn't mean that you have to spend more than necessary. There are periodically great deals that can give you a discount, free shirts or ties and cufflinks. To find out about the best coupons, check my Coupon Page regularly for updates or check on the Indochino website, occasionally they announce their own special deals right there.There are a couple of times during the year where you can expect bigger sales. There is usually a sale in late January, right before the start of the Chinese New Year and the biggest sale occurs during Black Friday in November. There are smaller and bigger deals all over the year.
Tip 1: If you want to get suits for your wedding party, read this article. Indochino has a special wedding planner for you and occasionally also great deals!
Tip 2: Indochino recently adapted a nice policy. If you bought a suit at full price and there was a discount within 2 weeks later, they will refund you the difference. Make sure to ask!
Get your measurements right
Indochino promises measuring yourself won't take more than 10 minutes on their website, but this is mainly not to scare customers away with a lengthy measuring process. The truth is, you might just need some time and a good partner to do it properly. What you will also need is a measuring tape (you get 2 of them with their Tailor's Kit) - don't try it with anything else. Follow the video advice as closely as possible, as a rule of thumb: if you are slim, measure rather tight, if you are a bit bigger, measure a bit more generously.
Don't use any tweaks you might find on websites, as they are usually outdated or only valid for the individual that ordered originally. When the Indochino tailors start working on your suit, they consider your weight, your height and they use their experience to maybe tweak the settings a bit as well. In fact, the extend to which they adjust the measurements can be pretty high and the results vary - for some it turns out fine, for others (mostly those with unusual measurements) the fit of the first suit can be pretty off. If you are interested on how many people needed a rework or alterations, you can check the results of my Indochino Survey. I really want to emphasize again how importing accurate measurements are, so please make sure you take your time and be patient with the whole process.
Overall, my recommendation is to stick to the video instructions for the first suit and together with your local tailor, your girlfriend, etc. develop some tweaks for future orders or for a remake.
One more thing: If the Indochino tailors believe your measurements are way off, they will write you an email and ask you to confirm or suggest other measurements.
By the way, once you have received your suit and you check back on your measurements, what you will see now are the measurements of the actual garment (at least for a majority of all accounts). So if you need changes, everything is based on the actual size of the product you bought.
Advanced Options
Part of why ordering a suit from Indochino is so cool are the different customization options you can choose. They have recently been simplified, but can still be pretty overwhelming if you are buying your first Indochino suit, so if you want to find out more about what is worth having, check here for more information - the advanced customization menu is pretty well hidden, so make sure you check out how to find it in the link below.
A Guide To Indochino's Advanced Options - Part I - Jacket
Don't use any tweaks you might find on websites, as they are usually outdated or only valid for the individual that ordered originally. When the Indochino tailors start working on your suit, they consider your weight, your height and they use their experience to maybe tweak the settings a bit as well. In fact, the extend to which they adjust the measurements can be pretty high and the results vary - for some it turns out fine, for others (mostly those with unusual measurements) the fit of the first suit can be pretty off. If you are interested on how many people needed a rework or alterations, you can check the results of my Indochino Survey. I really want to emphasize again how importing accurate measurements are, so please make sure you take your time and be patient with the whole process.
Overall, my recommendation is to stick to the video instructions for the first suit and together with your local tailor, your girlfriend, etc. develop some tweaks for future orders or for a remake.
One more thing: If the Indochino tailors believe your measurements are way off, they will write you an email and ask you to confirm or suggest other measurements.
By the way, once you have received your suit and you check back on your measurements, what you will see now are the measurements of the actual garment (at least for a majority of all accounts). So if you need changes, everything is based on the actual size of the product you bought.
Advanced Options
Part of why ordering a suit from Indochino is so cool are the different customization options you can choose. They have recently been simplified, but can still be pretty overwhelming if you are buying your first Indochino suit, so if you want to find out more about what is worth having, check here for more information - the advanced customization menu is pretty well hidden, so make sure you check out how to find it in the link below.
A Guide To Indochino's Advanced Options - Part I - Jacket
Tip: You can also use the $75 to have all kinds of alterations unrelated to the fit done. This includes e.g. exchanging buttons and much more.It is important you keep that in your mind and don't expect the suit to fit perfectly right away. There are such cases, but chances are that some alterations will be needed on your first order. In fact, a survey among 100 users I conducted in June 2013 reveals that nearly 80% of all first suits need alterations and as much as 35% needed a remake on their first suit. Keep this in mind when ordering and don't expect the impossible.
In Depth - The Indochino Survey 2013
Indochino Quality Survey 2013 - The Results
Be aware of the time and patience that is needed to get a good result - this applies for most other online MTM companies as well. At the end, I believe it's still worth it and I would never go back to OTR suits as it is now.
Remakes: If the tailor tells you he cannot alter your suit or you are completely unhappy with it, you can either ask Indochino for a complete rework (within 2 weeks of reception of the suit) or ask for a full refund. Multiple reworks are possible, they want you to be happy. Please note that in case of reworks or refunds you have to send your original suit back and pay for that yourself. Try to avoid high shipping costs by doing some research on the internet before. Also, you don't have to use the original packaging (which is rather heavy) to send back your items. I just recently found out that the returned suits are giving away to charity organisations - nice move.
One more word about remakes - there used to be some cases where remade jackets or pants didn't fit with the original garment. However, Indochino has taken the necessary steps to avoid this:
To get a better understanding of our processes, fabric only mis-matches when we exchange bolts of fabric. Our rotating stock is typically all sourced from a single bolt before it is sold out. As such, the only suits that could be remade with different shades of fabric are those from our Basic Collection.Because of previous problems with this, we now also note which suits are made from which bolt and when there is the possibility of mis-matching fabric, we remake the entire suit to ensure a consistent and matching shade. (Taken from an email conversation with info@indochino.com from May 4, 2011)
There is a great article about suit alterations and how to find the perfect tailor over at Art Of Manliness. I also recommend to use Yelp or other rating websites to find a suitable tailor nearby.
If something doesn't feel quite right, let them know
A quick word about import tariffs, because the question came up in the comments. It might happen that a local tariff agency calls you to ask for a bill, so they can determine VAT/other tariffs. In my case, they always billed Indochino directly with those tariffs (there was a special 3rd party account mentioned on the import papers). So, if anyone ever had to pay VAT/tariffs themselves, please let me know in the comments, but I know of no occasions.
All in all, those (currently) 7 steps should give you a great suit. A poll on my website revealed a majority of suits needs some alterations by a local tailor, but don't let that put you off. You usually get a very nice suit and you can cover many of the alterations with the 75$ Indochino reimburses. If your tailor estimates the cost significantly higher than 75$, you might want to consider a remake. In the worst case (and this rarely happens), you will get your money back.
- Lorenz
Further reading:
Disclaimer: I cannot guarantee that your suit will be perfect if you follow the steps outlined above. I do however believe that they will give you the best possible result.
Graphics used in this Guide by Ryan Neary.
by Lorenz Loidl
Further reading:
Disclaimer: I cannot guarantee that your suit will be perfect if you follow the steps outlined above. I do however believe that they will give you the best possible result.
Graphics used in this Guide by Ryan Neary.
by Lorenz Loidl